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    Aug24 - 208 days - A salute and a thank you to every serviceman and servicewoman on Quitsmokeless.org, for keeping us safe both home and abroad! Also a shout out of thanks and appreciation to every first responder at home!
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    1043 days quit x $4.50/can per every other day (divided by 2) = $2,346.75 plus, 1043/30 days per month x $80/month health insurance savings for being a non tobacco user = $2,781.33 for a grand total of $5,128.08 saved!!! (Actually Texas A&M gobbled that right up!) 3boysdad, aka 3BD - 1043
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    A cowboy appeared before St. Peter at the Pearly Gates. Have you ever done anything of particular merit?', St. Peter asked. 'Well, I can think of one thing,' the cowboy offered.. 'On a trip to the Black Hills out in South Dakota, I came upon a gang of bikers who were threatening a young woman. I directed them to leave her alone, but they wouldn't listen. So, I approached the largest and most tattooed biker and smacked him in the face, kicked his bike over, ripped out his nose ring, and threw it on the ground. I yelled, 'Now, back off or I'll kick the crap out of all of you!' St. Peter was impressed, 'When did this happen?' 'Couple of minutes ago.'
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    My rant of the day. By its very nature (and the nature of being a slave to addiction) dip made us all very selfish guys when we were using. Sure we could have been kind or generous or thoughtful back then, but that was ONLY AFTER we had satisfied our number one priority - getting our fix of the poison beast. We thought it was a good life back then, but in reality it was a shitty, selfish, wimpy way to live. A grown fucking man being made a neutered little lap dog by a tiny can of addictive poison. Well. I say FUCK THAT. Dip can go straight to hell. I am going to give my devotion to my family, my friends, my job, and my hobbies, and NOT to an expensive can of ground up leaves. How's that?
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    Move it man, I’m good with that. Been reading the rage room by Spector and it’s been hugely helpful
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    I would run on feel for a while but when you start getting longer distances in, I would run based on your heart rate. Keep it in the range of 180 minus your age. The should help build a great base.
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    MILES AGAINST DIP Oct. 14 - Oct. 29, 2017: 28.50 MAD ...........................9,876.00 MAD total Footwear: Lone Peaks Weight: hovering around 180 2017 race schedule: 01.14.17: Resolution Trail Run 4 hours: Complete: 6+ loops (16.25 miles) 01.28.17: Michigan Adventure Race: Complete: 21 checkpoint and 6 challenges (02:57:00 / 5 miles) 04.08.17: Forget The PR 50K, Volunteers Run: Complete: 08:00:00 09.23.17: Mountain Lakes 100: Dropped out at mile 71. 11.04.17: Fall Fat Ass 25K: I have been taking it easy since Mountain Lakes. Only doing 4 or 5 mile road runs about 2 or 3 times a week. I had a CT scan last week and it came back negative which is a good thing. Now I am scheduling an anal probe (better know as a colonoscopy) to check out the linings of my intestines and colon. Pretty nervous about it but I have had digestive issues for 7 years, so I guess it's good to get it looked at. Anyway, I have been sleeping in on weekends. Usually after drinking and it has not been the best sleep. Friday night my brother in law whose house we live in had some guys over and they were partying, I declined and did not drink. I got a message from some Toledo ultra friends saying they were heading up this way to run on Saturday. I got excited because I needed some motivation to get my ass out to the trails. I was going to show them the trails I run on at Pontiac Lake, my most frequented training grounds. We met up and it was a cool crisp fall Saturday morning, nothing better. Temps were about mid 30s and a long sleeve T with a short sleeve T along with shorts was just enough clothes. I would of been sweating if I had worn the fleece that I almost started in. During cold weather you know it's too much if your comfortable before the run starts. So off we went and I did 11 miles with them. They really like the trails and we had a blast. It was extremely rejuvenating to get out on the trails. Doing it with friends is even better. I had so much fun and it put me in a great mood. I got showered up, had some coffee, hit up the local Mediterranean gas station restaurant (Voted Americas 13th best gas station restaurant!) for a few falafal wraps and then road tripped down to the small town I am from in Ohio to watch my Buckeyes take on Penn St. at the only bar in town. The game did not disappoint!! I think my life expectancy might of taken a hit. What a comeback!! Very exciting. Drank a few to many Strohs during the game and crashed at my parents house. A pretty nice Saturday. The same friends that came up here to run are the ones who host the Fall Fat Ass 25K and 50K that I go to every year at Oak Openings Park which is about 15 minutes from my parents house. That event is next weekend and I am pretty sure I am going to road trip down there to run the 25K. Pretty excited to get back into trail running. I really do love it. Hope ya'll are doing well. Cheers! Mohican 100 Race Report
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    Good morning! I bet you didn't know this, and it's a little known fact, (how's that for some clever redundancy?) but Thanksgiving Day holidays is one of the best times of the year to quit tobacco. Don't believe me? Give it a try and see for yourself! Don't be a chicken... er, ah, turkey I mean... you can do it! 3BD - 1048 and feelin' great!
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    If you quit between 11/20/2017 - 12/20/2017 this is your quit group. To join this group all you have to do is quit dipping and post Roll Call How to Post Roll Call Get the Contract to Give Up Print it out and carry it in your wallet Click Here for a room to exchange phone numbers. Accountability is key! Monday, November 20, 2017 Quitters - sign here: Supporters: If you quit between 11/20/2017 - 12/20/2017 this is your quit group. To join this group all you have to do is quit dipping and post Roll Call How to Post Roll Call Get the Contract to Give Up Print it out and carry it in your wallet Click Here for a room to exchange phone numbers. Accountability is key! Monday, November 20, 2017 Quitters - sign here: Supporters: TR1960 - 1736 - In time, Monday 11-20-17 can become one of the most important date in your Life. Choose No Dip Today (NDT). Yes, you can make it one flippin day without a cat turd in your lip. Come on, take off your candy ass crutch panties and you will see you are much stronger than you think.
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    Good morning. If you're stopping by and lurking about, leave a post and we'll get back to you!
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    Deer season is fast approaching in Pennsylvania and my buddies got me set up with a nice spot, checking on my bucks and does for me as well. They’ve even been feeding them while I’ve been sick. Gonna be a good opening day, and quit as hell for it too! got a drop tine 9 pointer and a big bodied 8 out there and 4-5 huge does. Going to set up my spot later this week. Good to be alive
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    : Angry Quitters - Sick of Slavery November 14, 2017 Quitters - sign here: STS - 349: All we are saying, is give dip a chance. Yea, a chance to go fuck off and die a miserable death, before it kills us. NDT! Support Quitters: Tiger - 1756 - Let’s kick some ass bro!
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    Freedom Day, November 13 2017 Team SBAQ sign in: The Comma Club Tiger - 1755 - NDT on a Monday. TR1960 - 1729 - Back from a beautiful Elk hunt in NW CO, 5 Mi SW of Bears Ears Mtn near Craig , CO. Herd migration from Bears Ears had not hit our area during our time, but one of group did get a small local Bull on day 6. I came across a 30" Mulie @ 15 yds in dark timber (no Mulie Tag) and he never knew I was there. Flippin cool experience. Used to guide Mulie hunts in SW TX for 8 yrs, so seen about 150 Mulie Bucks and this ole boy was definite top 2 or 3. Also hunting 9300 ft is a young man's game, particularly packing out Qtrs 3.5+ miles mostly up hill. Next time I'm leasing Horses or someone might need to pack me out (preferably not in Qtrs). NDT. World Renowned Honorary SBAQ STS - 348: Quitting with Tiger today. ODAAT!
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    Angry Quitters - Sick of Slavery November 13, 2017 Quitters - sign here: STS - 348: I am planning a tobacco-free day. Any one else care to join in. ODAAT! Support Quitters: Tiger - 1755 - I'm gonna rock down to....quitlectric avenue....and then we'll take it higher....OHHH....
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    Angry Quitters - Sick of Slavery November 12, 2017 Quitters - sign here: STS - 347: Heading home. It's been a great trip. No freaking dip for me today. ODAAT! Support Quitters: RWM -250- Safe travels. I used to have to dip every time I was on a plane. I remember giving a smoker-buddy a hard time because he always had to go smoke before getting to the airport, and then again one last time before going through the security gate. Then, as soon as we landed, he had to RUN out the nearest exit to inhale another gasper. Dippers didn't have to deal with such inconveniences all the time. I remember the same desperation though when I badly needed a dip and couldn't get my fix. Freedom from that desperation is a major plus today.
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    PMFJ's Quit Group Thursday, November 9, 2017 Quitters - sign here: PMFJ - 95 - Thank you gentlemen for your support! My family and I really appreciate it! It's amazing how much this little morning ritual really means! Have another great day without the NB! What speech? I gotta write a speech! NDT!! Supporters: STS - 344: Glad to be quit with you. At 100 days you can choose to write and submit a speech about your quit. Though no one is forcing you to write a speech, we would sure love to hear what you have to say. NDT! RWM -247- We haven't seen a new HOF speech since Gibb last May. I for one am guilty of not writing one. STS is correct-- no one is forcing anyone to do anything. We give suggestions, tips, advice, and general rules to help you quit, based on collective experience, but everyone is free to do as they wish. That said, we certainly would love to see another HOF speech and see that tradition pick up again. Your personal experience is guaranteed to resonate with some person out there looking for inspiration to quit.
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    I'll second that salute by Aug24. Thank you to all the veterans for their service to our country.
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    So day two is here! Feeling good, no crave today yet, but nic is a sneaky bitch. Figured change my breakfast ritual as well. Yogurt and orange juice instead of junk food. Got a lung biopsy tomorrow morning and gotta go it alone. Gonna be a good day without dip
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    Bravo sir!!! The cool ass thing about quitting dip is that if you REALLY buy in, it’s ususlly just the tip of the iceberg for other changes that we may have been too scared or unwilling to make in the past. Quitting dip gives us the confidence and the realization that while we may be fucked up, there is something that WE can do about it. Yes, WEEEEEE are in control. To me, the Rage Room represents a place to come and just let shit hang out. Not necessarily rage, but “rage”, if you catch my drift.
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    Sorry it has been so long since I have written. Does it kill the "Rage Room" if I admit that I am not nearly (and I mean not nearly by a long shot) as irritable, pissy, angry, and mad at the world as I was when I first opened up this room. Don't get me wrong, life is not all fucking butterflies and unicorns. See I had to get one F-bomb in, but I don't use that word nearly as often. So what the fuck happened that I am not such a much of a miserable prick any more. It's been 343 days, and I am almost living life like a normal person. Sure I do yell and scream at irritating technology regularly and came oh oh oh so close to smashing my Microsoft Surface into tiny pieces (probably the most powerful, non-user-friendly, overly complicated, slow moving piece of shit Microsoft as ever invented (it really really needs to be smashed into pieces). But I digress. What has changed? Well time is part of it, as I have allowed more time for my brain to heal. But I need to be really really honest. As eluded to in part 5 of my multi-part rant, I said I was going to explore some real meds instead of me using tobacco/nicotine to help my brain feel "normal". Seeing an addiction specialist was my first move, as after 150 days quit, I was still one miserable prick to be around and was at the end of my rope. The combo of Welbutrin (to deal with craves, keep the brain focused, and stabilize the dopamine) has worked pretty damn well for me. Also taking a tiny, tiny amount of Lexapro to help me keep from getting all bent about of shape about little things in life. Do I have all the answers? No. Am I recommending this for others? No. Am I cured of all tobacco addiction? Fuck No! All I am is a dude trying to make it in life. I did not want to be that angry asshole for the rest of my life. Will I need meds for the rest of my life? I doubt it, but for now, life is so much better, that I will say Fuck in good way...... Fuck Yea, I am grateful to be alive and quit.
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    Oh hell yes. The rage room is back open. THIS IS NOT A SAFE SPACE. ANYTHING GOES
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    This really helped me get thru today. Thanks for all the awesome posts and music. Rage on gentlemen
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    Put me back on that list. Dip ain’t winning son! Been talking to see the Spector and I’m good now. Even tossed the fake dip. At day one again and ready to fight
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    I tossed the fake dip today too. Made me want cope badly. I’m freaking doing this time. My life ain’t getting given up for big tobacco to get their money. I got to much planned for the years to come to go down this road again.
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    : Angry Quitters - Sick of Slavery November 8, 2017 Quitters - sign here: STS - 343: I am enjoying the quit life. I am also enjoying the support I get from my brothers on this site. Support Quitters: Tiger - 1750 - See what consistent posting gets you? It gets you to badass status, like this guy here. You, sir, are a badass!
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    : Angry Quitters - Sick of Slavery November 8, 2017 Quitters - sign here: STS - 34x Support Quitters: Tiger - 1750 - See what consistent posting gets you? It gets you to badass status, like this guy here. You, sir, are a badass!
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    Current weight : 215 Miles since last post MAD : 2.0 + 1.5 Rebooted MAD: 22.2 Total MAD: 1822.5since 12/12/13 So I have figured out one of my major problems. I look in the rearview mirror too much with my running. What I mean is, since I have fallen off my running, my brain is convinced that I can just get right back on and be where I was in no time. That just ain't the case(my logical brain knows this, but I am emotionally driven, so there's that...). Any who, one of the ways I am combating this is ditching my watch for the time being. I am committed to totally running based on feel. That's it. So for the next couple of weeks, it's gonna be short runs in the hood until I get in a groove, then I'll go from there. I have signed up for a race in January, so I have a target to shoot for. I really appreciate you guys and this spot on the site. I like having a place that's kinda private that I can come and brag on all of our accomplishments. It also helps me to be a bit more accountable to myself. Races this year: Run through History 10K - 1:00:21
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    : Angry Quitters - Sick of Slavery November 3, 2017 Quitters - sign here: STS - 338: I quit. NDT! ODAAT! bflem-750- quit and quit. ndt RWM -241- Feels good not to have to start my day, end my day, and fill in all the time in-between with a dip. NDT!
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    October 15, 2016 Today's MAD: 22 total Swimming MAD total: 5, just a 1/2 mile swim. Trying to build back up to a mile. Total Running MAD: 5107.3 miles since 1/2/2010 Weight: 206 - Hovering Good runs but didn't do any running on vacation. Think I am going to do the Half-Marathon next week. I'm not in race shape for a half but I can get out there and run 13 miles. March 4 - Anthem 4.7K - 25:53 March 18 - Rodes 10K - 57:52 April 1 - Papa John's 10 Miler - 1:44:05 October 21 - EKU Homecoming 5K November 12 - ???? Louisville Half-Marathon - if I feel up to it.
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    The trip was awesome. I didn't get to run much but we did a ton of hiking. Mrs. Dipstick took on more trails than I thought she would but nothing as tough as Observation Point. We were focused on seeing as much of each park in 1 day each. I would love to go back and spend a week in the Moab area or Zion/Bryce area. https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM-tznmjS3qh8S1tATP_8aS-oMvQvG0HnzjXk4IWmSfNS4YpG-bCFtSO3tPjPIrgg?key=S29vYWE3T3FrZmgwS0U0NE1TWEZsMlZTenhLUnNR Above link is to ALL of the photos I took (900+), I didn't label anything yet but they are in order Arches, Dead Horse State Park, Canyonlands, Goblin Valley State Park, Capital Reef, Bryce Canyon, and Zion.
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    Not running related but just stumbled upon my hall of fame speech and it really brought back memories of the struggle after quitting. I am so thankful for this site and all of you guys. I don't post in my July 2008 group anymore because everyone had stopped a long time ago. We had a fun group. I am glad to have the running forum as I still like to be connected to the site and especially my MAD brothers. Here is my HOF speech if anyone wants to read. Please post your as well!
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    October 20, 2017 Tis' only but a dream. Went to the gym a couple days ago and they were closed. DOH! But, looks like I can register in a week and a half so that might get the fire lit for me. Miles Against Dip: Total M.A.D: 2931.75 http://www.anchoragerunfest.org/pages/races/49K.html
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    5400+ days quit. 15 years into a quit that I never thought would ever begin. QuitSmokeless.org saved mine and many other lives. Simple: you quit, you post, you succeed. That was my path. Not everyone follows that same path, that is why I keep coming back here. Success is possible and the first step is putting down the can. I found this site 2 days after i put the can down. Sweat was running down my forehead and I was ready to cave. I typed into Yahoo, "help quitting smokeless tobacco" and my cry for help was answered with Matt Van Wycks website and life saving buoy. To those out there struggling, trying to quit....i was in your shoes..as difficult as it may seem, it is simple in execution: Dont dip. Wake up. Dont dip. Repeat for 5400 days. Good luck fellow quitters!
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    Hey fellas - how have you guys been? Still dip free & drink free 4+ years out. So glad we did this for ourselves and family's. Be well.
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    July 2013 CANDO QUITTERS August 19, 2017 Cando Quitters: Sky - 1,602 - Passed the 16th floor....wow!!! DJ - Cando Support Tiger -
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    Rage Room is back open. Enter at your own risk as this is not a safe space.
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    I am going on my 9th month of having put down the can. I was a Cope / Grizzly Snuff guy for over 20 years. I have seen several posts (Pre Sign-up) knocking down the herbal dips. I would have to disagree with those who say they don't help. They may not have helped those fellas but they did help me. I am not going to push any particular brand and just needed to put that out there. For someone who is trying to quit it is worth a shot. I avoided the ones with nicotine because that was also part of quitting for me. Getting out from underneath the addiction to nicotine for me was huge! I used no nicotine gum or patch, just hard candy, regular chewing gum, and the "Fake Dip" to get through the struggles of missing a dip in my lip. I still keep a can of the "Fake Dip" around for those stressful times at work or other times. It helps fight that urge to go get a can of Cope. I hope this helps someone.
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    I want to use my Hall of Fame speech to tell you a little bit about my addiction, about my decision to quit, how I quit, and what I might have done differently if I had to do it over again. I will be sprinkling in quotes from other Hall of Famers throughout my speech (in italics) as a way of honoring those who blazed the trail for me. But first I do want to do a short dedication and say thank you to those on QSSN who helped me down the trail. This 100 days quit is dedicated to Dr. Coleman J. Spector, DDS who is my oral surgeon. Yes my trip to go See The Spector changed my life and probably saved my life. I want to thank my quit bro BLG who is the other half of the Angry Quitters – Sick of Slavery team. Having someone like you to call, text or message has been a huge reason why I made it through some of the tougher days. Thanks Brother!! I also want to thank the many supporters that have joined us for roll call these past 100 days. They are: MacDanders, Duf, Chill, MCO, Mongrel, Dodowah, Lucky, jayst, Fish, NoMoreBear, ReDo, TR1960, 86Torker, Sweet Tony, Dave444, Rat, NMG, CraigMac, Jmuir, FES, Stockchart, bflem, Jeffrobd, and Johnny. A special extra shout out to Benpitt and Tiger Refuge who not only post support on our roll call almost every day, but who also join me in the Rage Room from time to time. Finally I want to thank a couple of guys quitting solely on the Facebook QSSN page who regularly message support. Keep up the good work Ben and Tom! My Life as a Dipper The days of dipping in high school seemed so carefree and harmless. I would only have a couple of small dips per day when I was studying or trying to cut weight for wrestling, dip was under a buck per can, and a can would last a week. It was easy to sign that first contract in pencil with my new friend dip. College life brought more freedom, tougher coursework, and a lot of beer drinking. My friend dip wanted to renegotiate its contract with me. This new contract had to be signed in ink and demanded five of six small dips per day, many cans per week, and it had some fine print I never read. When I got my first “big boy” job, dip was right there to congratulate me, but of course a renegotiation of our contract was also requested. This time, dip was asking for larger more frequent dips and for a can a day commitment. Since I now had a real job, dip argued that I could afford it. There was also a lot of new fine print in the contract that was so small that I could not read it. Dip said not to worry about the fine print, and oh by the way this new contract had to be signed in blood. Yea you guessed it. I signed the damn contract. I had pretty much sold my soul. Tobacco is the false friend who stabbed you in the back, robbed you, beat you, raped you, and left you for dead in a gutter on an unfamiliar street, in a country who's [sic] language you don't even speak. – JR January 8.2002 I hear a lot of the guys on this site describe themselves as ninja dippers (either they dipped when no one else was around or they were so discreet about it that no one knew they are dipping). For at least the last ten years of my 30+ years of dipping I have been the complete opposite of a ninja dipper, I was the 1/5 of a can of Timberwolf in my mouth for 15+ hours a day dipper. I dipped loud and proud and I dipped anywhere and everywhere. Not that I was ever rude about, but if other people didn’t like that I was dipping, then that was just tough shit, because nothing was coming between me and my dip (I was such an addicted asshole). It’s so freaking sad that in half the photos that were ever taken of me (unless they gave me warning) I look like Bubba from Forest Gump or one the Yanomami tribe (Google it or see the photo in the Rage Room). For the last several years of my addiction it was so bad that the only times during any given day that I did not have dip in my mouth were; meals, exercise and sex. And the sad part is that I rushed through all three of those things, just so I could put that poison crap back in my mouth as soon as possible (pathetic addict). I could write volumes regaling stories of how pathetically addicted I was and how sometimes my compulsion to dip would own me, but one story says it all. There were six of us out for a business dinner at best steakhouse in Louisville. An agent I work with was buying the dinner and our mutual client was buying the wine – so I was being treated. The appetizers were wonderful, and then the $55 steaks arrived cooked to perfection. One of the clients is an oenophile and is treating us to $250 bottles of wine. When the meal ended I was stuffed with delicious food and amazing wine and jonesing for a dip. But some folks wanted coffee, so we had to stay at the table a while longer. And oh yes I did. This pathetic dipper loads up his lip (good three finger pinch) right at the table and then takes one of the empty bottles of wine from the table to use as my oversize spitter. As an addict I had hit rock freaking bottom. Deciding to Quit Quit now or quit at the urging of your oral surgeon. I did it the latter, you be smart and do the former. – JR April 17, 2002 I had been having some mouth issues for a while so my regular dentist sent me to an oral surgeon. It was a Thursday afternoon when I went to go See The Spector (Dr. Spector DDS – Oral Surgeon). My blood pressure is off the chart because I am so nervous. With a mirror in my hand and a bright light in the hand of The Spector, we began to examine my mouth together. Neither of us liked what we were seeing. Occasionally he would take the light out of my mouth and it would shine in the mirror that I was holding, and kind of blind me. The blinding light in the mirror had an eerie look, as it kinda looked like the light at the end of a tunnel. This light was not a ray of hope. Nope, it was an oncoming train. A speeding train of tooth loss and gum grafts at the very best and at the worse - squamous cell carcinoma. I left Spector’s office in shock and headed for some time in the barber chair. Normally I would have a quick dip as I walked the 5 blocks to the barber, but on this day the can remained in my pocket. I grabbed a lollipop at the barbers, and as I sat in the chair getting clipped sucking on that lollipop, I made the decision quit dipping. When I left the barber, I went across the street to Walgreens and bought a big bag of lollipops and two boxes of nicotine gum. I went home and looked in the mirror. I was getting older and my gums were in bad shape, but at least my hair looked good (hehe). It was then that I gave myself the lecture of my life and the law was laid down. I said fine, if you need nicotine that badly, then I give you permission to be addicted to nicotine gum for the rest of your life. But you will never ever ever put tobacco in your mouth again. Do you hear me you selfish self-destructive addict? Yes, I heard myself loud and clear and Day 1 was born. Someday, you will regret not quitting. Don't pass up that golden moment, when you are ready to quit… – olywa mike March 18, 2002 So I had my lollipops and nic gum, but I had no idea what the hell I was doing or what I was in for. I knew I needed help, and fast. I had found a couple of other sites on the internet geared for people trying to quit smokeless tobacco, and started reading some articles and posts. It’s weird how constantly reading what others went through in quitting helped me get through the first couple of days. I did come to realize that my use of NRT was against the “rules” of these other quit sites and I was not welcome in their quit groups or chat areas. Thank God I went back to my search results and found QSSN. It was exactly what I needed, and I joined my quit group on the 4th day of my quit. My use of NRT I am not an advocate for NRT and I don’t necessarily recommend its use as a quit aid. That being said I am unapologetic about using for the first part of my quit. My goal was to quit using tobacco – PERIOD!!! I was up front about my NRT use with my quit brother, but other than that I never really brought it up. I think everyone is a little different in the way they want to approach their quit, and I will support the cold turkey quitters and those wearing a patch on their arms with equal enthusiasm. Do I think NRT helped me? I’m not really sure. Maybe for the first week or so, but in general I found nic gum to be quite unsatisfying. Right after my second week of using the gum, I just found that I wanted it less and less. Quite by accident, I missed having a piece in the morning one day, so I had my first piece of the day in the afternoon. The same thing happened the next day. The third day of that week my first piece of nic gum was after the evening meal. The forth day I made it almost until bed time. On day 22 of my quit I just stopped using nic gum altogether. However, whatever it takes to quit you should be willing to do. Beat this addiction FIRST, then worry about gum, patches, fake dip, etc. As long as there is no snuff in your mouth, you will be on the road to beating the addiction. No one here thinks any less of you if you use quit aids, and there are no special prizes for quitters that went cold turkey. 100 days is 100 days. Just quit. – Trying July 15, 2002 What I Would Have Done Differently Timing: Timing is everything, and my timing for quitting dip sucked big time. Yes I decided to quit dip as a spur-of-the-moment decision two days after my father’ funeral. Yep I buried my dad, and decided to give up a 35-year habit two days later. Not a wise choice, as I had no idea the grief that I was feeling over the loss of my dad could be eclipsed tenfold by the grief of the loss of my “best friend” (dip) (see below for more on grief). My second error in timing was launching my quit on December 1st as the stressful holiday season was approaching and the days were the shortest - bringing on the seasonal depression. I weaned myself off of NRT on the 22nd of December so I timed a perfect nic withdrawal right at Christmas with the families. OH YEA, then I messed it up even more by planning a dream vacation to Easter Island with my significant other in mid January. Nothing like going halfway around the world to one of the most beautiful places on earth just to be an angry irritable son of a bitch (sorry mom). I know that timing is often used as an excuse not to quit (i.e. things are just too hectic for me to quit right now). However, one should be conscious that making too many major life changes at one time is not a good idea either. Advanced Preparation: Preparation is key!!! My quit was pretty much: FIRE, Ready, Aim. I liked dipping (or at least my addiction led me to believe I did) so had never really wanted to quit before. Sure maybe I thought that I should quit, but I had never made any steps towards actually quitting since I really did not want to quit. So here it is a Thursday afternoon and for the first time in my life the “brass ring of quitness” comes into view and it’s within my reach. I grab that brass ring and pull with all my might, and I have done it – I have quit dip. Great, I have quit, so now what do I do? I have no idea. Wish I would have read Bluesman’s articIe before I pulled the trigger. You must be willing to do literally ANYTHING to free your mind! In my case, the "do anything" approach has meant using herbal chews, chewing gum, hard candies, Altoids, prayer, eating snacks, taking walks, drinking water, working out, jogging, leaving work early, changing my routines, drinking more coffee, going to church in the middle of the day, and spending hours reading and posting on this website. If you need nicotine supplements (gum or patch) or an anti-depressant prescription, then go get them, right now. In fact, have everything ready on Day -1, so that you have these things ready when you need them. And tell everyone about your decision and your commitment. "Burn every boat," so to speak, so that you cannot break your commitment without embarrassment, without publicly admitting failure, and without swallowing your pride. Make it more difficult to cave that to remain true to your commitment (see "do anything" above). In fact, invest so much time and effort into your commitment that you absolutely HAVE to stick it out. Every step away from a prison cell is a step towards freedom. – Bluesman 2002 Being Prepared for the Grief: I was totally and wholly unprepared for the grief and mourning over the major life change of giving up dip. I was ready for withdrawal symptoms, but the feelings of grief and mourning over the loss of dip were/are so overwhelming that I will post a separate rant about it in the Rage Room. But for right now, I will tell you that only the death of my dog can compare with the emotional pain and sense of loss that I felt with giving up dip. Yes, I grieved immensely for my father, but in reality, dad and I talked a couple of times a month on the phone and saw each other a couple of times a year. My dog was always by my side for 13 years and was my constant companion, and when he died it was like having part of my heart ripped out. Likewise dip was my constant companion for 30 years and was my “best friend” who went everywhere and did everything with me (addiction messes with your mind so much that you think a can of poison is your best friend). When I quit dip, it felt like my best friend had died. I thought I was the only one feeling a sense of mourning and grief over the loss of dip, but I would come to find out that it is way more common with smokeless quitters than one would think. It’s OK to grieve. A major part of our lives (dip) is gone forever (died). We just need to remember that our association with dip had to die, or that we were going to die from our association with dip. The emotional or daily life aspect of dipping was harder for me than any physical symptoms. Hell at one point I felt like I was mourning the death of a friend, literally. What I was really mourning was the fact that I had attached dipping to so many good memories that dipping itself had become my emotional tie in to the past, and THAT'S what was bullshit. – Tiger Refuge May 16, 2013 Being Prepared for How Long the Irritability and Depression Might Last: I must say that I was also totally unprepared for how long it can take for the brain to “heal” itself after years and years of nicotine abuse. I was not prepared for the depression and I was not prepared for the irritability, short temperedness, and rage to continue for so long. It was only by reading so many posts on this site from other quitters and by reading some posts on smoking cessation sites that I began to realize that it could be a very long road to full recovery. Everyone’s quit and everyone’s brain is different. For some, they all good after a couple of months, but for others it can take years to feel close to “normal” again. I suspect that I am one of those people for whom it will take a longer time to fully heal. Just knowing that is half battle. So, I will acknowledge that my brain chemistry is still messed up, I will not set arbitrary timelines for my recovery, and I will keep my chin up and not use any tobacco products One Day at a Time. After a few days of hell, a few months of being a miserable prick and a few years of regular cravings I am finally coming out on the other side. I tell you all, find support, kick it completely and hold on. You will come through it. Do not get caught comparing your quit to others. When at 100 or 200 days people told me they really were not struggling anymore I wanted to punch them in the face. For me, it did not let go quickly, but it is now [at 1,000 days]. I have a dear friend on this site who past 1,000 days is still struggling like I was 200 days ago. I called her yesterday to tell her to have hope. We have lamented to each other so many times “why isn’t this easy yet? I hope the fact I am finally getting there can be an inspiration that hope springs eternal. – Tamado September 2007 Thank you for reading and I hope you enjoyed. Regards, Bruce
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    First off, I’ve GOT to give it up to Quit Smokeless (to the tune of ‘Got to Give it Up’ by Marvin Gaye). I don’t really have any eye-opening moments, epiphanies, sad stories or divine interventions to share like some, but what I do have to share is what I’ve received and earned through this community: accountability, encouragement, support, wisdom, a safe place for when I can’t think of anything but dipping tobacco, and the start of my real-deal quit. This 100 day mark feels like I’m finally getting the right foot off the ground to start up a lifetime quit. I imagined 100 days would get me to a point where dip was a non-issue, but the further into the quit I get, the more I realize that the longer I am quit, the more vigilant I have to be against it. It’s just as easy today to go grab a can as it was on day 1, but now it finally feels like I have something to lose if I decided to do that. I still want a dip like I used to, but I’ve built up this nice strong quit, and all you guys have a big hand in it. Would I want to let myself down? No. Would I want to let you guys down? Definitely no. I’ve relied on you day after day, it’s only right that you can rely on me just the same! That’s why I’m going to keep quitting one day at a time for the rest of my time, it just makes sense! SHOUT OUT TO MY SUPPORTERS!!!: Chill, dave42, Dillhole, geffdiv, HighTon, jacot23, MarkPaul52, Ohioman 1972, RAS101, See The Spector, UPSer, BRB, dodowah123, dufd45, luckster, No More Grizz, Pastor Tag, Rat 41, stockchart If there were a hall-of-fame for supporters, the guys below are my champs, thanks for being there all the freaking time fellas!!!: 86Torker, bflem, BrianB, CraigMac6, D Bob, jeffrobd, jonny, MacDanders, Muddler, rodeo timer, SweetTony, Tiger Refuge, tm-va, TR1960 *if I missed you, send me a message and raise hell, I deserve it!!! RIP to my December ’16 quit team: Horse, xman9916, suvratarora07, Dipjitter. I hope you guys catch a new group in the very near future!!!! To those who made and those who maintain the site, so many thanks. Now, back to my quit, I just got started!!!!!!! NO MORE DIP!!!!!!!!
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    As I stated in the C&C Quit Factory quit group this morning, this is not the end it is only the beginning. While I do feel a little sense of accomplishment with reaching 100 days quit I still realize I need to stay focused and stay humble. And most importantly I must keep the ODAAT approach to my quit. During these last 100 days, I not only stayed quit but I also started to live a better lifestyle. I started to become more active, I started to actually live life. It might be difficult for some of you to truly realize, but as a closet dipper, the NB totally controlled me. I know it controls us all but being a closet dipper, I refrained from going to most functions, I refrained from doing just about anything that would not involve stuffing my face with a dip without ANYBODY around. My life was out of control. I had no social interaction, other than work. In fact, all I did was work and of course, dip! Since I decided to change my life, things have really turned around for me. I can honestly say this is one of the happiest times of my life. Not only because I've given up dip, but also because I've started to live my life on my terms. I know a lot of you have your different reasons for quitting but I quit because I wanted my freedom back. I was tired of the dip mind screwing me all the time. I was tired of being an overweight, out of shape, lazy physical education teacher. Oh yea, that's right. I lived a terrible life yet I taught kids to live a healthy life! What kind of hypocrite does that? I didn't care, all I cared about was the can and being alone to stuff my face. When I first started my quit, I weight around 260lbs. I've never been overweight before these last few years when the NB took TOTAL control of my life. I'm proud to say as I type this out, I'm now at 200lbs. Yes that's right, I've lost 60 pounds during my first 100 days of my new life. I think I'm more proud of that then I am of my 100 days quit. Not sure why but I am. I guess the reason for my rambling right now, is to let all of you know, no matter how much the NB has control of you, you can quit. You can have a better life. You can make the most of each day. I'm living proof of that. All you need to do, is quit for today. I know it sounds cliché but its so true. Just quit for today. Take control of what you can control and that is right now, that is today. I go into so many quit groups that are empty after those quitters have reached the 100 day mark. I don't get it. How can we be so committed to our quits for 100 days then just fall off? Like its all over. Like the NB will automatically stop coming around. I know exactly why . We all have this big idea that 100 days is the end all GOAL. I like sports so I'll compare it to a sports situation. You have teams that work their butts off to win a championship, to be on top of the world (100 days quit) and once they get there. The work is over. The goal has been accomplished and there is nowhere to go from here. I tell everyone, that ask, about my weight loss, losing the weight wasn't the toughest part, the toughest part is maintaining that weight loss. Trying to keep motivated now that I've reached my weight goal. Like that team that just won the Super Bowl, its hard to stay on top. Its hard to maintain that greatness but that's where the real work comes in. I know my quit isn't over. I know I have a long way to go but I know its possible to continue being quit ODAAT. For those of you that are reading this that need some motivation or encouragement. Listen, since 2012 (its 2015 right now) I've been a "Day 1" quitter for more times that I can recall. It NEVER stuck with me. But eventually it did. During those first few weeks that really suck, I just told myself, if I didn't quit this time, who knows when I would attempt to quit again. The life of freedom is way better than any day of dipping. As I told a friend the other day, if being a dipper was better than being quit; I would have went back to dipping a long time ago. My point is, if you want to quit more than you want to dip, you will. Good Luck on your journey. You will be a better person for quitting and most importantly you will get your life back. Lastly, I would like to say thanks for the outpouring of support. It really left me speechless. The excitement people show on here for others success is truly remarkable. You don't find that with a group of strangers very often, but then again, that's what makes this place so special. Good Night gents and I will see you all on day 101! Respectfully, CraigMac